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HUNGARY.

Steve Hiscocks wrote:
Austria and Hungary became separate in most respects, although both ruled by Franz Josef I, in 1867 and the first Hungarian postage stamps were issued in 1871. Telegraph stamps followed in 1873 as in Austria. It was ordained that these should be printed from engraved copper plates but, when it became evident that these could not be ready in time, permission was given for a temporary lithographed issue. The lithographed stamps were in use from 1 August 1873 for about a year after which they were replaced by the engraved series of exactly the same designs and values. The use of these stamps was discontinued on 28 February 1879 and forbidden thereafter. After a further nine months during which stocks in the hands of the public could be redeemed they were demoneterized and remaining stocks reportedly sold to collectors and dealers.

The lithographed stamps were all perforated 9½. The low value engraved were perforated 13 while the engraved 1 and 2 Forint at 9½ for a while but later changed to 13. The lithographed were on the same thick paper as the postage stamps while the engraved stamps were on much thinner paper. Virtually all the first issue were pen-cancelled and steel circular date stamp cancels were introduced in late 1874 and 1875.

Three official reprintings took place to illustrate various publications — 1878, 1891 and 1900. All were engraved and imperforate. Known forgeries include false ink cancellations on engraved stamps, perforated 1 Forint from the 1891 reprinting and perf.13, 1 and 2 Forint stamps reperforated 9½.

My note:
Known forgeries. Does anyone have information that might distinguish these ?
Thickness and colour of paper, gum if any, colour of low values would be good to know.
Checking paper and diameter of perforations against known originals may be a good idea for expensive items.

1873 (1 August) Lithographed on thick white (except where stated) wove paper without watermark. Perf. 9½


Type 1 5kr - H1a ?	Type 1 10kr - H2	Type 1 20kr - H3 ?	Type 1 25kr - H4	Type 1 40kr - H5a ?	Type 1 50kr - H6a ?


Type 2 1F - H7 - used Courtesy of Patrick Conelly.	Type 2 1F - H7 - used Courtesy of Patrick Conelly.	Type 2 1F - H7a - used 30 September 1873 at M. K. Központi (Central) Tavirda, Budapest.	Type 2 2F - H8

The first one was eBay item 293080539727 from 10 May 2019. If it is yours, please get in touch. I show it largely for comparison with the next image.
In addition though it has a cancel of "PETERWARDEN".

Multiples seem to be quite scarce. Here are a couple of pairs:
Pair of H3a Pair of H6
A pair of 20kr, H3a and a pair of 50kr, H6 courtesy of Patrick Conelly.

Steve Hiscocks makes much use of the colour "indigo" in his descriptions of these. However this colour name means
different things to different people, probably depending on what part of the world they learned English in.
Steve Hiscocks, being British was probably influenced by Newton who put it between blue and violet in the spectrum,
and the colour of indigo dye. These pre-dated pantone or web colours! In terms of these stamps I would say take it as a very dark blue

Hisc.	Description	Mint	Used
H1	5kr darkish blue	32.50	13.00
H1a	indigo	45.50	18.00
H2	10kr darkish blue	57.00	25.00
H2a	indigo	80.00	35.00
H3	20kr darkish blue	39.00	13.00
H3a	indigo	54.00	18.00
H4	25kr darkish blue	84.00	37.00
H4a	indigo	110.00	52.00
H5	40kr darkish blue	21.00	27.00
H5a	indigo	29.00	38.00
H6	50kr darkish blue	41.00	17.00
H6a	indigo	57.00	24.00
H7	1F black	265.00	100.00
H7a	grey-black	265.00	100.00
H8	2F black / brownish yellow	12.00	12.00
H8a	imperf. between horizontal pair	120.00	-

Hiscocks added the following 2 notes:

Note 1. Morley lists a variety of No. 8 (i.e. lithographed) perforated 13.
I find no other evidence of this but am open to correction.

Note 2. No. 8 is on surface coloured paper to help avoid confusion with No. 7.

1874 Similar to above but engraved on thin hard paper. Perf. 13.


5kr Perf. 9½ Lithographed.	5kr Perf. 13 Engraved.

Krajczàr is Hungarian for Kreuzer, the currency.


2F Perf. 9½ Lithographed.	1F Perf. 13 Engraved.


Type 1 5kr - H9	Type 1 10kr - H10	Type 1 20kr - H11	Type 1 25kr - H12a ?	Type 1 40kr - H13	Type 1 50kr - H14


Type 2 1F - H15 or H15a	Type 2 1F - H15 or H15a - courtesy of Rolf Lamprecht	Type 2 1F - H15 or H15a - two more paper colours. Black ink measures about the same though.


Type 2 2F - H16a	Type 2 2F - H16b	Type 2 2F - H16b - courtesy of Patrick Conelly	Type 2 2F - H16c - courtesy of Patrick Conelly

To me, it seems like the colour of the paper is more important than the shades of grey/black printing ink.

Hisc.	Description	Mint	Used
H9	5kr dark blue	1.50	1.00
H9a	light blue	4.50	3.00
H10	10kr dark blue	1.50	1.00
H10a	light blue	4.50	3.00
H11	20kr dark blue	1.50	0.50
H11a	light blue	4.50	1.50
H12	25kr dark blue	2.00	0.50
H12a	light blue	6.00	1.50
H13	40kr dark blue	1.50	3.00
H13a	light blue	4.50	10.00
H13b	imperf. between horizontal pair	75.00	75.00
H14	50kr dark blue	1.50	0.50
H14a	light blue	4.50	1.50
H14b	imperf. between horizontal pair	75.00	75.00
H15	1F black / greyish white	3.00	3.00
H15a	grey-black / greyish white	3.00	3.00
H15b	perf. 9½	300.00	200.00
H16	2F black / pale brown	5.00	6.00
H16a	grey-black / pale brown	5.00	6.00
H16b	black / pale brown perf. 9½	25.00	20.00
H16c	grey-black / pale brown perf. 9½	25.00	20.00

Hiscocks added the following 2 notes:

Note 1. Note 2 below No. 8 applies.

Note 2. The engraved issues, Nos. 9 to 16 are on very thin hard paper
which becomes brittle with age. Cracks, splits, missing corners, etc.
are thus very common, especially with Nos. 15 and 16.

Stationery

This appears to be a receipt for a telgram that would have been below. Image courtesy of TreasuringsJewelry (click image for eBay listing).

Feladó-vevény = Consignor-buyer	az alábbirt sürgönyről = the Telegram below		Rendeltetési hely = Destination	Feladási hely = Place of dispatch
Szám = Number	A feladás ideje = Time of dispatch	Fizetett dij = Paid fee	Az elfogadó hivatalnok aláirása = Signature of the accepting officer

This is bi-lingual version, with Hungarian (left/top) and Croatian, of the form above.

Image courtesy of TreasuringsJewelry (click image for eBay listing).

Telegram sending card.
Predatnica - front Predatnica - back

A keresztvonalok által képezett 20 rovatté rbe sorban balról jobbra csak egy-egy szó irandó, és pedig legelől a czim, utána a szöveg s végre az aláirás.
A sürgönyző saját érdekében áll tisztán s olvashatóan irni, és érkező felelet vagy más értesités haladéktalan kézbesithetése végett lakását e sürgönyzlap alsó szélén feljegyezni.

In the row 20 boxes formed by the crosslines from the left only one word is written to the right, and the address is written first, then the text and finally the signature.
It is in your own interest to write clearly and legibly and to record your apartment on the lower edge of this telegram for the immediate delivery of an answer or other information.

Távirat-lap (Telegram-sheet) - outside. Figyelmeztetés = Warning.
#2 says : "E lap ára 31 kr. melylyel belföldre vagy Ausztriába és Németországba szóló táviratnál
10 szó díja is meg van fizetve; a 10 szón felüli díjak (egy szó 3 kr.) a belső lapon megjelőlt helyen
megfeleló értékü levéljegyek felragasztásával rovandók le. Ha a távirat oly helységbe van címezve, hol
csak vasuti távirda van, kézbesitési díjul még 15 kr. franko-jegyet kell ezen lap kijelőlt helyére ragasztani."
meaning : "The price of this card is 31 kr. with which the fee of 10 words is paid when sending a telegram to Hungary or Austria and Germany;
the fees of more than 10 words (one word is 3 kr.) by affixing the corresponding letter marks in the place indicated on the inner sheet.
If the Telegram is addressed to a place where there is only a railway Telegram, the delivery fee is 15 kr. a franko ticket must be affixed to the outside of this sheet.".

The outside-front caries a 31kr impressed stamp.

Images courtesy of TreasuringsJewelry (click image for eBay listing).

Szolnok Telegram-1916

A third size Telegram of December 1916 to Szolnok written in German. 2 filler pre-stamped plus 1K28.

Telegraph Seals.

A range of different seals were used on telegrams in Hungary.

This half sized image shows a sample of them.
Hungarian Seals

Steve Hiscocks made a start on cataloguing seals of the world in a book he published in 2007.
It was his hope to update it later, but unfortunately that was not to be.
His original book can be viewed at Telegraph Seals: A World Catalogue. There are links from the pages to my updates.

Alternatively you can view the latest page for Hungary.

If anyone can provide scans to help with this, I am happy to give appropriate credit.

Comments, criticisms, information or suggestions are always welcome.

Please include the word 'Telegraphs' in the subject.

Last updated 6th. November 2023

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